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Posted By:   at 17:18:03 PM on 04/21/2008
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Posted By: jdshaffer95  at 10:57:28 AM on 06/30/2008
I do NOT believe in the big bang
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Posted By: pietro  at 11:15:04 AM on 06/29/2008
AS OF TODAY WHAT WE HAVE SEEN ON MARS IS ROCKS AND SAND...I BELIEVE IT IS MORE LIKELY TO FIND SOME SORT OF LIFE IN THE JUPITER MOONS LIKE EUROPA WHICH IS FULL OF WATER AND IN THE SATURN MOONS LIKE TITAN AND ENSALADUS THOUGH THEY ARE SO COLD AS 90 CENTIGRADE DEGREES BELOW CERO....DESPITE ALL THIS TO HAVE REACHED MARS MOON AND THE JUPITER AND SATURN MOONS IS AN UNOBJECTABLE SCIENCE SUCCESS AS WELL AS IN TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES....I THINK WE ARE NOW IN A COMPLETY OPPOSITE ATTITUDE INSTEAD OF BEING WAITING FOR ALLIENS TO COME TO OUR EARTH....WE SHOULD BE GOING TO EXPLORE OTHER PLANETS
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Posted By: dennis  at 01:17:52 AM on 06/27/2008
yes, mars is cold at the moment and the atmosphere is inhospitable, but maybe millions of years ago, it may have been different. for a brief time, some form of life may have existed there and the atmosphere may have been more forgiving, for a brief time , some type of life , microbes-bacteria etc. may have flourished and that is what the pheonix lander will discover for us, hopefully. i believe we will find some evidence of previous life on mars.
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Posted By: pietro  at 12:08:09 PM on 06/23/2008
IN MY OPINION MARS IS A COLD DEATH PLANET WHERE NOTHING GROWS..AND LIFE CANNOT DEVELOP.....THE ICE ITS GOT IS ONLY CARBONDIOXIDE AND ITS
ATMOSPHERE IS SO THIN THAT IT CANNOT STOP THE COSMIC RAYS...THAT MAKES MARS SURFACE VERY DANGEROUS.....MARS IS A DEATH COLD PLANET
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Posted By: jdshaffer95  at 09:51:48 AM on 06/21/2008
NO. Hoow would ice prove that life existed there? For life to have existed there, we need to find tools that they used or buildings. That is a 100% way of finding proof. We haven't found that yet.
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Posted By: dennis  at 02:28:56 AM on 06/21/2008
I believe we are on the brink of discovering life once existed on mars and prove once and for all, our universe is full of life.
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Posted By: daniha  at 11:07:14 AM on 06/17/2008
you're even crazier
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Posted By: daniha  at 11:04:04 AM on 06/17/2008
you're even crazier
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Posted By: jdshaffer95  at 18:42:04 PM on 06/10/2008
thank you 6:35:36 thats the point ive been trying to make for the last month.
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Posted By: pietro  at 06:35:36 AM on 06/10/2008
HI TODAY IN THE 21ST CENTURY WE GOT HIGH TECHNOLOGY COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS....RADARS INFRARED SATELITES...SETI COUNTS WITH THE MOST ADVANCED ANTEENAS TO CATCH UP ANY SIGNAL IN THE UNIVERSE....DESPITE
ALL THIS....THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF ANY ALIEN TRYING TO CONTACT US....MARS IS A COLD, DEATH PLANET WHERE NOTHING GROWS AND ITS COMPOSED ONLY BY ROCKS AND RED SAND....BESIDES IT DOES NOT HAVE
OXYGEN IN ITS ATMOSPHERE AND IT IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS BECAUSE IT
LACKS OF PROTECTION OF COSMIC RAYS...WE ARE ALONE IN THE SOLAR SYSTM
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Posted By: daniha  at 20:52:37 PM on 06/09/2008
you are crazy
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Posted By: daniha  at 14:52:32 PM on 06/20/2008
so let's talk about the fermi paradox
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Posted By: daniha  at 10:24:11 AM on 06/07/2008
why aren't you agreeing with me
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Posted By: dennis  at 20:43:25 PM on 06/06/2008
Your right, who knows what technology we might come up with. Warp drive is a possibility ! We might even advance to the stage were we can harness worm holes. You just never know. Then we could travel just about anywhere. But at the moment our technology is just not good enough, we would need generational ships like i said. In the future, warp drive might be possible.
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Posted By: daniha  at 19:32:23 PM on 06/06/2008
why not try warpdrive? Since we can advance fast, why not warpdrive
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Posted By: dennis  at 02:41:41 AM on 06/06/2008
I hope we advance technology a lot faster than 10,000 years. I think we can, you only have to look at the great leaps we have made in the last 100 years, i'm hopeful we can acheive close to light speed travel a lot earler than 10,000 years. But even if we can travel at or near the speed of light, some of the distances would still be to great. It would take 4 years to reach alpha centauri, 26 years to reach vega etc...I believe we would need generational space craft, where people were born and people died as we travelled across the stars and especially if we wanted to visit other galaxys, that would be the only possible way. I hope we survive as a species long enough to achieve these goals. I'm more worried that we will over populate earth, destroy the environment, kill all life with nuclear weapons. If we don't do these things, then i believe, we will travel across the stars.
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Posted By: pietro  at 12:50:48 PM on 06/05/2008
MY OPINION IS THAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE AROUND 10,000 YEARS TO HAVE A SUITABLE TECNOLOGY TO REACH ALPHA CENTAURI...THE CLOSEST STAR WHICH LIES 4 LIGHT YRS AWAY FROM US....WE LIVE IN A LIFELESS SOLAR SYSTEM ..ONLY IN OUR PLANET ... LIFE WAS ABLE TO DEVELOP...UNFORTUNATELLY MARS IS LIKE A COLD DESERT MOON, WHERE NOTHING GROWS IS TOO COLD AND MAYBE ONLY IN THE JUPITER AND SATURN MOONS THERE MIGHT BE A TRACE OF SOME ORGANIC MATTER BESIDES WE ONLY HAVE SOME YEARS AHEAD TO MOVE FROM EARTH SINCE THE SUN WILL EVENTUALLY DIE.....MAYBE WE WILL NEVER GET IN TOUCH WITH ANY EXTRATERRESTRIAL CIVILIZATION ....
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Posted By: daniha  at 12:28:54 PM on 06/01/2008
Don't you know that it takes about 4 years to send a message to Alpha Centuri
P.S. You should agree to my opinion
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Posted By: old son  at 09:38:04 AM on 06/01/2008
I GUESS MAYBE HE MEANT THAT YOU WHO EVER YOU ARE COULD SEND OUT MESSAGES SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO INVADE ALPHA CENTORIE NEXT WEEK AT 3:15PM !!!!!!
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Posted By: daniha  at 21:32:09 PM on 05/30/2008
"forcing" them to brodcast to us, duh
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Posted By: jdshaffer95  at 14:26:08 PM on 05/26/2008
No, what do you mean by saying "trick them into brodcasting to us." What are you talking about.
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Posted By: daniha  at 16:25:25 PM on 05/24/2008
did I say you're? I ment we're
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Posted By: jdshaffer95  at 16:17:12 PM on 05/24/2008
What are you talking about?
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Posted By: jdshaffer95  at 10:58:58 AM on 06/30/2008
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Posted By: dennis  at 07:37:05 AM on 06/27/2008
evolution is a process of change in a particular direction, by which something attains its distinctive characteristics. it is the continuous genetic developement of organisms or species to the environment. adaptation is a condition of being adapted, it in no way explains the gradual evolving of species through genetic changes and the splitting of species into sub-branches. we know for a fact, through d.n.a and the fossil record, that homo-sapiens(modern man) broke from the primate branch and evolved over millions of years to what we are today, we are 98% primate, we were not created seperately, our closest relatives are the great apes. and further more, we have fossil remains of early mammals that took to the water and later on, over millions of years, evolved into whales and dolphins. we have the bones of these pre-historic ancestors to whales and dolphins and these bones show the formation from legs to flippers. evolution is a slow process, early man left the trees and evolved from walking on all four limbs, to standing upright. now you can argue all you like, and say how wonderful we are, so god must exist and the world is only seven thousand years old and we were created seperately from animals, but you have not a shred of proof to back up your claims, furthermore, d.n.a exposes your lie, it proves we are not seperate, we are related to all life forms on this planet and this planet has existed for more than 4 billion years and carbon dating of the earliest human remains goes back millions of years. our universe is at least 15 billion years old and there was a finite point, when our universe began to expand, call it the big bang if you like and our universe is continuing to expand, the dopler effect shows our galaxy moving farther away from our nearest galactic neighbour. and there seems to be no slow down, one day our universe will be a cold, dark place, void of all life as stars run out of their nuclear fuel. if you choose to be a person of faith, believing in the unseen, kudos to you, i wish you well in your faith, but keep god out of science and i will keep science out of god !
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Posted By: jdshaffer95  at 09:03:06 AM on 06/18/2008
there is that predator and prey is because there is bad in the world. And that predator and prey works for our comfort and good. It says in the bible that we shouldn't prize a animal or other living thing, not human, above another human. Like a spider and a fly. If there was no spiders, insects would infest the earth. Sure, spiders can be dangerous and creepy but most animals are here for a purpose, they play a important role. And if time goes on and we get "bigger brains", that isn't evolution. The process of our skull getting bigger is because of adaptation. Evolution, this is the definition, is a process in which a life form is changed over period of time into a new life form. Like a cat getting changed into a dog. We've never seen that happen. Or, others say that evolution is like a giraffe getting born with a longer neck. consequently, it can reach higher for more leaves on trees. This trait would get passed on to it's children. But if you think about it, that's not evolution. That's adaptation. That info for change for the better was already "programmed" into the animals genes. If fish sprouted legs, how is that going to help the fish? For something to happen for good, like a fish to sprout legs, that info needs to get into the animals genes. How did it get there? /It didn't. Albert Einstein once said that there is a uncrossible gap between real objects and their representations. Like a artist painting a picture of a flower, while looking at it. But there has to be one thing for it to happen. INTELLIGENCE. A archutect can use his intelligence to build a house from a blueprint. And our genes are very like a blueprint for LIFE. And, if evolution happpened, who put the genes in there? What is so cool, though, if you believe in creation, is that the Creator leaves little symbols of him in us and animals. Like some animals cannot survive without another. This should be OVERWHELMING evidence but you evolutionists won't listen. Maybe it's because you can be rediculed if you're a creationist. See the movie "EXPELLED"
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Posted By: jdshaffer95  at 08:50:06 AM on 06/18/2008
23:18:39 PM on 06/13/2008, can you answer me and give me proof and not criticize me? Am i criticizing you? Plz answer my question
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Posted By: jdshaffer95  at 20:18:29 PM on 06/14/2008
can you give me anything more than a sarcastic remark?
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Posted By: dennis  at 23:18:39 PM on 06/13/2008
Next time you eat a steak or hamburger, praise the lord.
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Posted By: jdshaffer95  at 14:25:37 PM on 06/13/2008
Maybe he does not speak because your not listening, 5:46:30...............
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Posted By: jdshaffer95  at 14:24:29 PM on 06/13/2008
Can you show me a picture of a fish with a leg? if you can't evolution is not possible. There are no fossils that show a half something and a half other something :-)
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Posted By: jdshaffer95  at 14:23:40 PM on 06/13/2008
Hello? THat's adaptation, not evolution. Evolution is a species changed into a whole other species. So everything that evolutionists are claiming proof for evolution are actually proof for adaptation. :-)
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Posted By: dennis  at 05:46:30 AM on 06/13/2008
Evolution is not only possible, its a fact. Even as i write this down, all life forms on this planet continue to evolve. Whales evolved from land mammals that took to the sea, we have fossil proof of this, bones. Human beings continue to evolve and if we survive long enough, our features will change, our brains will continue to grow and our skulls will enlarge to accommodate our growing brains. All life began in the organic soup of the sea, beginning as single cell organisms, which multiplied and evolved, harnessing minerals to become more complex, multi-celled. If you believe Jewish folklore (the old testament), god made man out of the dust of the earth, from dust of all things, talk about fairy tales and god made us separate from all other life. What that doesn't explain, is how we are 98% related to other primates like apes and chimpanzees, we have broken the genetic code (DNA) and we are not made of dust. Humans have walked this earth for more than 100,000 years and we are closely related to all life forms on this planet. Our planet is billions of years old, dinosaurs walked the earth hundreds of million years ago. And what type of a creator would make living beings feed on other living beings. Go to africa, see the struggle for life between prey and predator and tell me god exists, what type of a sick and twisted god are you talking about. There is no proof god exists,except some stories passed down to form a book called the bible. There is overwhelming proof of evolution, tangible proof you can see and touch, no one can see god or touch him, there is no way to prove god exists. God is dead, his silence has killed him, speak god if you exist ? Still there is silence !
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Posted By: jdshaffer95  at 18:40:48 PM on 06/12/2008
but andrew, it says that death entered the world because of sin. And Jesus came to die for those sins. But wouldn't Jesus have to go to those other planets and die there for that planets race to survive because it says in Hebrews all living kind was cursed because of sin and that curse was death. And if the ETIs didn't need Jesus, that's plain wrong. If anyone believes in the BIBLE, it clearly states that God created just us. Some people ask then why'd God create so many planets if we're the only people out there. the answer is {i think} that God simply likes to create. And he creates for his own good pleasure. And i don't think we're doing such a hot job here on "good" earth, diplomatically in other countries. :-((((
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Posted By: Andrew  at 21:24:20 PM on 06/11/2008
Your absolutely right.
We did not just form, we were CREATED.
So if Aliens exist anywhere at all it is because God created them.
So the answer must be NO to this debate.
Because you cannot be a Christian and believe in evolution also you cannot be a Christian if you believe life forms exist that God did not create.


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Posted By:   at 16:05:29 PM on 06/07/2008
Evolution mathematically speaking, Mr. Matha-magican, is completely impossible. Our body is made up of 3 things, proteins, amino acids and cells, ok? It takes an average of 17 amino acids to make up a protein, they have to be lined up in perfect order, THEN it takes 113 proteins to make up a cell, and AGAIN they have to be in perfect order, and it gets WORSE!!! Our body has MILLIONS of cells. OK, think of 17 people standing in a line (like our amino acids, ok?) Did youo know that there is up to 60,400,000,000,000 possibilities?? And if they switch placed once every minute, it would take 7.43 BILLION years for them to stand in every possible spot.

What ARE the odds of that?
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Posted By: swapan.ablrb@yah  at 23:02:11 PM on 06/06/2008
you are at the sea shore,look around the sandy beach.take a hand full of sand & try to count the numbers you are holding in your hand.can you count?i guess not.the earth is a tiny bit of sand in the beach,representing us on the whole universe.how come we are so sure of God,only created us in this vast universe?are'nt we narrowing down his power of infinity?either you believe in science or religion,everything indicates one thing for sure they(ALIEN)were here,they kept coming... may be Raelians are right.
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Posted By: dennis  at 22:38:25 PM on 05/30/2008
there is nothing wrong with being religious and believing we are not alone. i'm not religious myself, in fact i can't stand religion, but thats my choice. anyway, hopefully soon the mars lander probing the north pole will come back with some definite proof that not only was there water all over the surface of mars, but some of the building blocks of life existed there and maybe even some form of life itself, however simple it might have been, like bacteria and stuff. this would be the greatest discovery ever made by man, and it would show that this universe is full of life. i hope we find the answers to the question, are we really alone ?
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Posted By: jdshaffer95  at 13:58:07 PM on 05/23/2008
HURRAH, ANDREW!!! I've been waiting for a believer in here. But wouldn't it be pretty impossible? Do you believe just God created us, or the whole Christian belief?
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Posted By: Andrew  at 08:18:43 AM on 05/23/2008
God created all life including our Spirits and aliens as well maybe !
Wether He created other beings on another Planet or not we don't know for sure, but it is interesting to consider such a possibility.
If God created Aliens then we will find them oneday !
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Posted By: Andrew  at 08:15:19 AM on 05/23/2008
God created all life including our Spirits and aliens as well maybe !
Wether He created other beings on another Planet or not we don't know for sure, but it is interesting to consider such a possibility.
If God created Aliens then we will find them oneday !
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Posted By: Ben D  at 00:55:56 AM on 05/23/2008
Accepting that life is ubiquitous throughout all the Cosmos is a natural intuitive insight of all evolved intelligent beings,... religious theory and practice is an attempt to contact (unite) with the other to be whole.
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