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Posted by Ben D
June 10, 2008 at 06:30 PM
Student,
From the Declaration of Human Sovereignty,..
"We, the People of Earth, regard the need for freedom to be universal. Therefore, we hold that all individuals in all worlds are created equal and are endowed by the Creator with sacred and inalienable rights."
With due respect, this statement reflects conceptual thought processes so far from reality that it can be considered absurd. The rest of the document is consistent in being practically devoid of any substantive intelligent understanding, not only of the larger cosmic reality, but even the reality that exists on planet earth today.
What I am saying is that this world, like the Cosmos in which it has it's being, is a holarchical entity that is hierarchically structured. Humility on the one hand and compassion on the other are essential attributes humanity should exhibit when approaching the question concerning "when Aliens call".
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Posted by Student
May 02, 2008 at 05:39 AM
Your analysis is right on. Have you seen this document?
http://www.humansovereignty.org/
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Posted by Joseph H Guth PhD
April 08, 2008 at 09:59 AM
When Aliens Call
Regarding the subject of whether an alien message received by a governmental research project would be released to the world\\\\\\'s peoples, none in the current SETI blog discussions has addressed the more likely possibility that the message could be one that alerts us to the fact that the aliens themselves are of an aggressive or militant nature or simply looking to conquer new worlds for food sources, additional living space or other needed resources. This has been the most common theme of science fiction since it began over a century ago. If a civilization is compelled to develop interstellar space flight, it has an instinct to survive and propagate. If it has those instincts, then it would have developed both defensive and offensive weapons, tools and tactical knowledge just as Man and other life forms on earth have done. Darwinism would be at work anywhere in the universe. If that were the case, we should be holding our right hand out in friendship and reserving our left hand for possible defense with a very big stick. In any case, it has been very imprudent of us to have been broadcasting our presence to the universe over the last 100 or so years through the radio and microwave spectrum without considering and preparing for this possibility. We should be watching any potential alien explorers or conquistadors from a well-concealed location to see what their real intentions are before we attempt to contact them. Only after assurances that they are benign and not bringing any alien infection with them should we actually establish communications and contact with them. Otherwise our world’s civilizations should be invisible to the rest of the universe.
It is true that most governments would have more reasons not to share such information with their populations than reasons to actually do \\\"the right thing\\\". But when have governments ever done the very best for those who live under them? Never. It would be foolish in the extreme if the peoples of the world continued to think that nations, national boundaries, national economies, national histories, ethnicities, languages, racial differences, organized religions and other human constructs that keep us divided and at odds and pitted against each other would continue to exist unchanged into the indefinite future. The world is finally crowded enough like an overgrown Petri dish as per Thomas Malthus for globalization to bring down all of these dividers one way or the other. And one of the overriding ideas and needs that most people intrinsically feel is a need to have themselves respected, recognized and their voices heard. That is human nature. That is the underlying psychological reason for the idea of a pure democracy.
When a group of people come together to live in close cooperation, ground rules must be established. Those ground rules are like Rousseau and Locke\\\\\\'s Social Contract. Each gives up some of their own power of self determination in exchange for a harmonious and just way of working together, enjoying the rewards of joint efforts and balancing their own self-interests against the interests of the greater good. Outlaws and outliers are “culled from the herd” through law enforcement and judicial review. In such a Utopia, all finally gain the maximum benefit of being a part of the greater group’s efforts. Each can specialize in their work and contributions and have access to the same from all others. That is where globalization, education and economic development is directing us to evolve. Wars and mass conflicts will cease once the benefits of peace outweigh the benefits of conflict and conquest. Population control will be mandated to keep everything in balance with our energy and resource supplies, and our end-product recycling and finite living space. But that will only happen if either all of those divisional institutions fall or are cast by the wayside or if a strong enough uniting reason comes from elsewhere. Thus it behooves us to begin working on getting rid of those dividing institutions as quickly as possible to clear the way to our next stage of development, one world government and one world economy. Knowledge breeds success, fear and ignorance breeds failure. Education and philosophical doctrine is the delivery system and a peaceful world with the ability to defend itself from external threats is the prize.
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Posted by Joseph H Guth PhD
April 08, 2008 at 08:09 AM
When Aliens Call
Regarding the subject of whether an alien message received by a governmental research project would be released to the world's peoples, none in the current SETI blog discussions has addressed the more likely possibility that the message could be one that alerts us to the fact that the aliens themselves are of an aggressive or militant nature or simply looking to conquer new worlds for food sources, additional living space or other needed resources. This has been the most common theme of science fiction since it began over a century ago. If a civilization is compelled to develop interstellar space flight, it has an instinct to survive and propagate. If it has those instincts, then it would have developed both defensive and offensive weapons, tools and tactical knowledge just as Man and other life forms on earth have done. Darwinism would be at work anywhere in the universe. If that were the case, we should be holding our right hand out in friendship and reserving our left hand for possible defense with a very big stick. In any case, it has been very imprudent of us to have been broadcasting our presence to the universe over the last 100 or so years through the radio and microwave spectrum without considering and preparing for this possibility. We should be watching any potential alien explorers or conquistadors from a well-concealed location to see what their real intentions are before we attempt to contact them. Only after assurances that they are benign and not bringing any alien infection with them should we actually establish communications and contact with them. Otherwise our world’s civilizations should be invisible to the rest of the universe.
It is true that most governments would have more reasons not to share such information with their populations than reasons to actually do "the right thing". But when have governments ever done the very best for those who live under them? Never. It would be foolish in the extreme if the peoples of the world continued to think that nations, national boundaries, national economies, national histories, ethnicities, languages, racial differences, organized religions and other human constructs that keep us divided and at odds and pitted against each other would continue to exist unchanged into the indefinite future. The world is finally crowded enough like an overgrown Petri dish as per Thomas Malthus for globalization to bring down all of these dividers one way or the other. And one of the overriding ideas and needs that most people intrinsically feel is a need to have themselves respected, recognized and their voices heard. That is human nature. That is the underlying psychological reason for the idea of a pure democracy.
When a group of people come together to live in close cooperation, ground rules must be established. Those ground rules are like Rousseau and Locke's Social Contract. Each gives up some of their own power of self determination in exchange for a harmonious and just way of working together, enjoying the rewards of joint efforts and balancing their own self-interests against the interests of the greater good. Outlaws and outliers are “culled from the herd” through law enforcement and judicial review. In such a Utopia, all finally gain the maximum benefit of being a part of the greater group’s efforts. Each can specialize in their work and contributions and have access to the same from all others. That is where globalization, education and economic development is directing us to evolve. Wars and mass conflicts will cease once the benefits of peace outweigh the benefits of conflict and conquest. Population control will be mandated to keep everything in balance with our energy and resource supplies, and our end-product recycling and finite living space. But that will only happen if either all of those divisional institutions fall or are cast by the wayside or if a strong enough uniting reason comes from elsewhere. Thus it behooves us to begin working on getting rid of those dividing institutions as quickly as possible to clear the way to our next stage of development, one world government and one world economy. Knowledge breeds success, fear and ignorance breeds failure. Education and philosophical doctrine is the delivery system and a peaceful world with the ability to defend itself from external threats is the prize.
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